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New group doesn't work

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New group doesn't work
« on: December 14, 2018, 08:49:31 am »
I am new to creating groups but not new to using Alexa. I recently bought two 3rd gen Dots. They are both in the bedroom. I used the app to create a group. Both Dots are online and work independently but not together as a group. Can someone tell me what I did wrong?
Thank you,
Lee

Re: New group doesn't work
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2018, 11:17:33 am »
Yuo want them to play music together in a group? What music service are you using, what specific command do you give, and what's the result?
My Alexa stuff:
Echo Show, Echo Spot, 4 Echo Dots, Fire TV, Fire tablet,
Vobot Alarmclock, Logitech Harmony Hub, house full of Hue lights,
Ring 1+2 doorbells, Tado smart thermostat, Plex server.

Re: New group doesn't work
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2018, 12:53:36 pm »
Thanks for the quick reply, dragon. No music (at this point). I really got into the sound effects (ocean, thunderstorm) etc.
and with the better gen 3 speakers, I wanted a more "immersive" sound filling the bedroom when I go to sleep. I thought grouping 2 Dots together when I asked for a particular sound effect they would both play the same thing at the same time.
Right now, if I ask for the thunderstorm sound one opens and plays that sound. I have to then ask again to get the second Dot to play that sound but it starts it's own loop (which is not in sync with the first one). And, actually, if you're listening to something like storm sounds that's not all that bad. However, if I request the piano, for example, they would both need to be playing the same sound effect at the same time.

Re: New group doesn't work
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2018, 04:49:40 pm »
Well you can either create a 'smart group' which is for turning on the lights and stuff in the particular room you're in, or a 'multi rooom music group' which will play, well, music over a group of echos. So if those sound effects are on amazon prime or spotify what you want would work.
Another option is to use 2 speakers to get stereo: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=GPSQQS7N3SBKAEWU   but again I think this'll only work for spotify and the like.

There's also the option of linking 2 speakers together using an audio cable. The 2nd one doesn't need to be an echo.
My Alexa stuff:
Echo Show, Echo Spot, 4 Echo Dots, Fire TV, Fire tablet,
Vobot Alarmclock, Logitech Harmony Hub, house full of Hue lights,
Ring 1+2 doorbells, Tado smart thermostat, Plex server.

Re: New group doesn't work
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2018, 08:01:08 am »
Boy, that's disappointing, dragon. That's what I get for asking a question on Amazons Echo Dot product page. Evidently, someone was just trying to be helpful without actually knowing what they were talking about. They said just form a group and they will all work together. I have no idea where the sound effects come from. You just enable them in the skills section of the phone app. As they would not be considered "music" I doubt creating a music group would accomplish what I want. I think your idea of just linking them together with an audio cable is my only solution. I just ordered one from Amazon. Thanks for all your help.

Re: New group doesn't work
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2018, 06:19:03 pm »
UPDATE: For anyone who thinks you can just connect two Dots together with a 3.5 audio cable and have them play the same thing...  don't bother. I just got my cable, connected my two Dots together and all's it did was prevent either Dot from playing anything! The cable just completely shut down the Dots ability to take commands or play sounds.