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General Category => Amazon Echo Discussion => Topic started by: Opieos on March 16, 2016, 10:59:43 am
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Truthfully haven't looked at the specs real close but anyone know if he ECHO DOT will play music separate from the Main ECHO. in other words
Main ECHO is in living room > ECHO DOT is in exercise room in basement. Will it play music (ie Pandora etc etc) absent being plugged in with a cable or ??
Like the idea of dropping a DOT or two in separate areas where the MAIN ECHO wouldn't necessarily be able to hear me.
Thoughts or suggestions.
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I know it will connect via BT with BT devices. The reason I'm buying it is so I can connect the Dot with my Bose Soundlink Mini, in order to have that 'on demand' music coming through the Bose instead of the Echo.
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Truthfully haven't looked at the specs real close but
All anyone knows is what Amazon has publicly disclosed -- which is quite a bit. Lots of guesses, though. We know nothing more about it until we have one in a few weeks. So, this is all that most of us know about it:
http://www.amazon.com/b/?node=14047587011
Be sure to see the video, too.
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I imagine it will be an echo in its own right ie the setup will be the same as what people who have two echos have now. In that respect, they can play music independently from one another. I have two echos so I tried a few different permutations tonight. Iheartradio will play two different things on different units on the same account no problem. Spotify will only play on one device at once. But you can easily flick the same song as you move from one echo to another, just say "Alexa play spotify" and it seamlessly moves over. No idea about prime as my UK prime music won'twon't yet work on echo. I can't images it will be a situation where a dot is somehow a slave device to a full echo. It's just an echo with a smaller speaker & a bluetooth output & a jack lead.
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Truthfully haven't looked at the specs real close but
All anyone knows is what Amazon has publicly disclosed -- which is quite a bit. Lots of guesses, though. We know nothing more about it until we have one in a few weeks. So, this is all that most of us know about it:
http://www.amazon.com/b/?node=14047587011
Be sure to see the video, too.
there is a lot of reading between the lines. The way I see it, if you have your own speakers, get the dot, if you need a speaker, get the echo. both will be independent of each other when it comes to most features even though it accesses the same amazon account.
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I already have Fire Stick w/ remote running thru my 7.2 Onkyo Receiver.
Plays Pandora, Prime Music, etc thru my speaker system perfectly... obviously not in 7.2 but......
So the only thing Dot would do is not require me to boot up the whole system, BUT I'd need more speakers or blu-tooth speakers.
Unless I'm missing something the Dot would just be redundant. Right?
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Unless I'm missing something the Dot would just be redundant. Right?
That depends on what you plan on using it for. Playing music is just one small subset of the functionality delivered by the Echo (including the Dot and Tap variants).
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Hi all - recent Sonos convert and have been trying to find out some info regarding the Dot in so much as...
It says it has a small speaker.
Looking to use a few of these as voice recognition points for my home automation.
We have places we want audio and places that we want to be able to just interact.
Has anyone seen anything that would suggest this is possible?
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Hi all - recent Sonos convert and have been trying to find out some info regarding the Dot in so much as...
It says it has a small speaker.
Looking to use a few of these as voice recognition points for my home automation.
We have places we want audio and places that we want to be able to just interact.
Has anyone seen anything that would suggest this is possible?
Not only is that possible, but it's becoming a very common use for the Echo. And since the Dot is functionally identical to the full-sized Echo, save for the Dot's external speaker support, due to its lower-quality internal speaker, you can do anything with it you'd do with an Echo, especially if you connect it to a decent external speaker.
So if I'm understanding you correctly it sounds like you want either a full-sized Echo or a Dot hooked to an external speaker in places where audio output quality is important (like for playing music), and just a stand-alone Dot in places where you only care about voice interaction (either for home automation control or other Alexa services).
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Yeah thanks for that.. I want a dot in the master bedroom, and echos everywhere else.
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I am getting two Dots and a Tap; set to arrive here in two days!
One Dot will be plugged into the stereo audio in. Second Dot is the "floater" used anywhere we need it to be, although its main parking place will be master bedroom. Also, it can go on air trips with us when impractical to bring the Tap.
Tap was bought for it's portability, battery operation and BT speaker.
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I forgot to add that I've had an Echo since early on. After joking around w/ it for a few weeks we use it a LOT.
Shopping List, Weather, Alarm and Calendar get a big workout.
Integrated w/ Whole House Phillips lighting, remote in one room, Echo in the other end of the house, LightStick w/ remote in the Media area connected to the Onkyo Receiver (so Echo there too).
We have hard wired whole house and yard speakers connected through BT receiver by phone or PC or through main Onkyo receiver.
Dot looks like a Great Product but a battery operated Echo (you don't have to Tap) is what I'm waiting for.....
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Dot looks like a Great Product but a battery operated Echo (you don't have to Tap) is what I'm waiting for.....
Technically possible, but not likely anytime soon. The strain that "always listening" mode puts on a reasonable-size-and-cost battery is just too great.
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Hey Henry , You can just hook up alexa or a dot to e the echo battery .. https://www.echobattery.com/
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Hey Henry , You can just hook up alexa or a dot to e the echo battery .. https://www.echobattery.com/
Good idea but this is what the Echo should have been in the first place except with a docking station... Very expensive add-on!
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Hey Henry , You can just hook up alexa or a dot to e the echo battery .. https://www.echobattery.com/
Good idea but this is what the Echo should have been in the first place except with a docking station... Very expensive add-on!
The Echo is priced at $179.99 and people already grumble about that. Building in the kind of battery capacity offered by the product above would have made the Echo significantly more expensive for everyone, including people who don't care about portability. That would have made it a non-starter for most consumers, and a flop of a product introduction. You actually want that capability and you're complaining about the cost of adding it (AND your complaint is based on pre-order prices). Imagine how people who don't want/need it would react to the Echo if it were priced at $250+.
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Hey Henry , You can just hook up alexa or a dot to e the echo battery .. https://www.echobattery.com/
Good idea but this is what the Echo should have been in the first place except with a docking station... Very expensive add-on!
The Echo is priced at $179.99 and people already grumble about that. Building in the kind of battery capacity offered by the product above would have made the Echo significantly more expensive for everyone, including people who don't care about portability. That would have made it a non-starter for most consumers, and a flop of a product introduction. You actually want that capability and you're complaining about the cost of adding it (AND your complaint is based on pre-order prices). Imagine how people who don't want/need it would react to the Echo if it were priced at $250+.
I am working under the assumption that a GIANT corporation like Amazon could get it built for much cheaper then a guy in his garage. I would rather have had it as part of the echo for $200-$220 and be a warranteed by Amazon piece of equipment than a thrd party add-on. It is a speaker so it would have made sense for it to dock.
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Your have all the luck,in the uk we pay a high price.
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Your have all the luck,in the uk we pay a high price.
Someone has to support your royalty's standard of living! :D
We gave up on that 200+ years ago. We were pretty serious too! ;)
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We have royalty,you have ?,but you wish.
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I am working under the assumption that a GIANT corporation like Amazon could get it built for much cheaper then a guy in his garage.
There are limits to economies of scale, no matter how big your company is. The underlying materials and manufacturing costs have lower boundaries, and that floor for battery technology costs is likely higher than you imagine. But, OK...suppose Amazon could add that functionality for *half* of what the Battery Boots cost to make, and still get the same ROI as the current Echo. If we estimate that based on the anticipated retail prices of the Battery Boots you're still adding $35-$50 (or ~20%-28%) to the price of the Echo.
I would rather have had it as part of the echo for $200-$220 and be a warranteed by Amazon piece of equipment than a thrd party add-on.
What about the rest of us who don't want/need that portability? Adding at least $35-$50 to the cost for a feature that most potential customers aren't going to use would be dumb. Now, Amazon offering the same type of accessory as an optional add-on would make sense...but not building it into every unit.
It is a speaker so it would have made sense for it to dock.
Characterizing the Echo as "a speaker" is a bit like characterizing your PC as "a monitor".
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The Echo is priced at $179.99 and people already grumble about that. Building in the kind of battery capacity offered by the product above would have made the Echo significantly more expensive for everyone, including people who don't care about portability. That would have made it a non-starter for most consumers, and a flop of a product introduction. You actually want that capability and you're complaining about the cost of adding it (AND your complaint is based on pre-order prices). Imagine how people who don't want/need it would react to the Echo if it were priced at $250+.
I am working under the assumption that a GIANT corporation like Amazon could get it built for much cheaper then a guy in his garage.
There are limits to economies of scale, no matter how big your company is. The underlying materials and manufacturing costs have lower boundaries, and that floor battery technology costs is likely higher than you imagine. But, OK...suppose Amazon could add that functionality for *half* of what the Battery Boots cost to make, and still get the same ROI as the current Echo. If we estimate that based on the anticipated retail prices of the Battery Boots you're still adding $35-$50 (or ~20%-28%) to the price of the Echo.
I would rather have had it as part of the echo for $200-$220 and be a warranteed by Amazon piece of equipment than a thrd party add-on.
What about the rest of us who don't want/need that portability? Adding at least $35-$50 to the cost for a feature that most potential customers aren't going to use would be dumb. Now, Amazon offering the same type of accessory as an optional add-on would make sense...but not building it into every unit.
It is a speaker so it would have made sense for it to dock.
Characterizing the Echo as "a speaker" is a bit like characterizing your PC as "a monitor".
Fair enough but using it as a speaker is at least 50% of what I use it for if not more. It would be nice to take it outside and such.
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odd wat it is doing with our quotes...
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The Dot has landed! Going to plug it in and give her a go! Be back with some thoughts.
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Characterizing the Echo as "a speaker" is a bit like characterizing your PC as "a monitor".
Fair enough but using it as a speaker is at least 50% of what I use it for if not more. It would be nice to take it outside and such.
If a portable bluetooth speaker is what you wanted then there were certainly better options that already exist...for FAR less money. Although it includes bluetooth speaker functionality, that's a nice bonus feature, not the Echo's primary (or even secondary) purpose....however you personally have chosen to use it.
odd wat it is doing with our quotes...
That was my fault. I've fixed it in my own post.
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The Dot has landed! Going to plug it in and give her a go! Be back with some thoughts.
Yeah, Brown Santa (the UPS guy) just handed me the one I ordered for my son.
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Characterizing the Echo as "a speaker" is a bit like characterizing your PC as "a monitor".
Fair enough but using it as a speaker is at least 50% of what I use it for if not more. It would be nice to take it outside and such.
If a portable bluetooth speaker is what you wanted then there were certainly better options that already exist...for FAR less money. Although it includes bluetooth speaker functionality, that's a nice bonus feature, not the Echo's primary (or even secondary) purpose....however you personally have chosen to use it.
odd wat it is doing with our quotes...
That was my fault. I've fixed it in my own post.
Portable speaker is only one feature I would have liked. But a good one!
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Got it setup with Amazon wake command. My Bose needed to be charged so I haven't set it up with it yet. Not sure what you meant DParker about having other options out there for using it with BT. I have no option to have that instant on demand music through my Bose without the Echo. Plus, the nice feature is you are not using up any phone, ipod, or tablet battery to play the music through the BT speaker.
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Not sure what you meant DParker about having other options out there for using it with BT.
And I'm not sure what you mean by "using it with BT", assuming "it" refers to the Echo, as I didn't say anything about using it with BT. What I said was was that there are better options than the Echo if what you want is a BT speaker.
I have no option to have that instant on demand music through my Bose without the Echo.
You don't have a computer?
Plus, the nice feature is you are not using up any phone, ipod, or tablet battery to play the music through the BT speaker.
That's what chargers are for (or at least, it's one thing they're for).
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And I'm not sure what you mean by "using it with BT", assuming "it" refers to the Echo, as I didn't say anything about using it with BT. What I said was was that there are better options than the Echo if what you want is a BT speaker.
Was referring to the Dot being used to connect to BT speakers, not the Echo.
You don't have a computer?
Of course, but that's the whole idea of Home Automation......so we don't have to get up and go to the computer, or turn off the lights, or write things on our grocery list etc. etc.
That's what chargers are for (or at least, it's one thing they're for).
Again, it's not about using juice on the others, it's about still having them free to use not having to be concerned about how 'far away' I go being out of bluetooth range, and also, 'again' ... it's about Home Automation .... making us lazy...however you want to look at it!! ;)
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I bought the damned battery! Hope it is as advertised!
I bet now that a new Echo comes out this year that is battery operated with a dock (kind of like Tap v2)....
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Was referring to the Dot being used to connect to BT speakers, not the Echo.
Ah, OK...that explains the confusion. The conversation that saturnkk and I were having was about the "Battery Boot" product and the Echo, not the Dot and BT.
Of course, but that's the whole idea of Home Automation......so we don't have to get up and go to the computer, or turn off the lights, or write things on our grocery list etc. etc.
Well, sure. But you said that you had "no option to have that instant on demand music through my Bose without the Echo". A "home automation" option is more specific. But in that event, I'd agree.
Again, it's not about using juice on the others, it's about still having them free to use not having to be concerned about how 'far away' I go being out of bluetooth range, and also, 'again' ... it's about Home Automation .... making us lazy...however you want to look at it!! ;)
OK. But again, what you actually said was, "you are not using up any phone, ipod, or tablet battery to play the music". So maybe you can see why I thought you were talking about using up battery power. 8)
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And I'm not sure what you mean by "using it with BT", assuming "it" refers to the Echo, as I didn't say anything about using it with BT. What I said was was that there are better options than the Echo if what you want is a BT speaker.
Was referring to the Dot being used to connect to BT speakers, not the Echo.
Ah, OK...that explains the confusion. The conversation that saturnkk and I were having was about the "Battery Boot" product and the Echo, not the Dot and BT.
You don't have a computer?
Of course, but that's the whole idea of Home Automation......so we don't have to get up and go to the computer, or turn off the lights, or write things on our grocery list etc. etc.
Well, sure. But you said that you had "no option to have that instant on demand music through my Bose without the Echo". A "home automation" option is more specific. But in that event, I'd agree.
That's what chargers are for (or at least, it's one thing they're for).
Again, it's not about using juice on the others, it's about still having them free to use not having to be concerned about how 'far away' I go being out of bluetooth range, and also, 'again' ... it's about Home Automation .... making us lazy...however you want to look at it!! ;)
OK. But again, what you actually said was, "you are not using up any phone, ipod, or tablet battery to play the music". So maybe you can see why I thought you were talking about using up battery power. 8)
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We are on the same page my friend! (Is the DParker your name, by chance (Dave Parker) The reason I ask and it caught my eye is because I am originally from Dayton, Ohio and follows the Reds and Bengals, and Dave Parker used to play for the Reds.