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Title: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: k9kids on July 05, 2017, 08:53:26 am
Returning my Echo Show today.

I'll keep an eye on it as it progresses, but right now there are things I don't like about it.
-Viewing angle
-Obnoxious scrolling suggestions etc...
-Just not convenient to use

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ZxMMCjZ/0/128717af/XL/i-ZxMMCjZ-XL.jpg)




Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: joshsimpson79 on July 05, 2017, 09:24:49 am
I don't have one, but Amazon seems fairly receptive to feedback on these products.  Maybe some updates could at least improve some of it.

I would probably buy one if they were considerably cheaper, but I'm not itching for one.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: AlanH on July 05, 2017, 05:32:32 pm
I'm undecided about buying one when Show becomes available in the UK. Price might be an issue, but I also have doubts about the styling - it looks like a product of the 80's.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: mike27oct on July 05, 2017, 05:48:53 pm
Instead of buying a Show, take the money you'd spend on one and put it toward a tried and true decent tablet if you don't have one.  Then use Skype or FaceTime  to face-to-face with people.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: k9kids on July 05, 2017, 05:54:14 pm
Reminded me of an old Sony rear projection TV I once had. State of the art back then.  :D

Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: malliekm on July 05, 2017, 06:04:51 pm
I don't care for the looks either.  Like that dumb Vobot thing that looks like it dates back to the PacMan era.  I'm good till the next best thing comes along.  Echo Show isn't it (in my book).
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: mike27oct on July 05, 2017, 08:21:18 pm
Yea, and as soon as the teenagers discover that mom and dad can spy on them from afar, it will get uplugged by the kids, asap.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: k9kids on July 05, 2017, 09:04:16 pm
Yea, and as soon as the teenagers discover that mom and dad can spy on them from afar, it will get uplugged by the kids, asap.

It's not even a very good spy device unless you're sitting right in front of it. The angle of the camera is meant for a video call. Other than that the angle is too high.

Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: Beetle-Snake on July 06, 2017, 06:53:32 am
I wonder if this version of Show will ever see life outside of the US - the lack of adjustable angle seems to be a big issue and could be an essential upgrade for version 2, assuming that is they decide to go ahead with another version. Personally I still think the idea was pointless and does very little you cant already do or could do on an Echo or Dot with beter integration with Fire TV boxes and sticks. The whole concept seems to be about pushing an alternative to Face-Time or Skype which is a battle I don't think Amazon are ready to win or one we need.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: iolinux333 on July 06, 2017, 09:47:44 am
The obnoxious scrolling suggestion thing must go. I don't have a Show, but I do have an old Android tablet next to my Echo with the Alexa app open continuously next to it. The obnoxious scrolling thing eats up so much of the screen it's horrible.

I feel like the Echo was made by engineers, but as soon as it was a hit, all the evil middle managers from everywhere else at Amazon swooped in to spread their slime and inject their poison.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: Laurel on July 06, 2017, 12:17:35 pm
I really like the mid century modern look of the Echo Show.  I'm very tired of all the modern cylinder speakers etc.  So far I love my echo show for the purposes we use it for.  No complaints really thus far other than the scrolling comments on the screen.  I'm sure they will axe that soon.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: malliekm on July 06, 2017, 03:28:35 pm
Well that must be my problem!  I am SO not a fan of MCM  ;D
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: AlanH on July 06, 2017, 03:41:05 pm
I had no idea Mid Century Modern was a thing.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: renegade600 on July 06, 2017, 03:59:19 pm
I really like the mid century modern look of the Echo Show.  I'm very tired of all the modern cylinder speakers etc.  So far I love my echo show for the purposes we use it for.  No complaints really thus far other than the scrolling comments on the screen.  I'm sure they will axe that soon.

but you cannot hang it on the wall.  something that big is taking up counter/table space.  It should be more like a tablet, maybe thicker but something that can be hung on a wall and look like it belong there. 
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: iolinux333 on July 06, 2017, 07:20:42 pm
I had no idea Mid Century Modern was a thing.

iPhone is MCM.  Started in Germany 1930s.  The war killed it for a while.

After the war was picked up in again in Scandinavia.

Died in the 80s because it looked dated.

Ives brought it back once more.

 

What's old is new again.

It won't last forever.

At some point we'll have the return of knobs and buttons.

It will be hailed as revolutionary.

lol
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: Laurel on July 07, 2017, 12:27:47 am
iolinux333 that was interesting.  I love knobs and buttons lol.  I really missed my little transistor radio from days of yore and found a cool one on Amazon.  I am the proud owner of the Blackerry Keyone (latest android phone with a keyboard from TCL). Too much swiping on the slabs for me. lol
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: malliekm on July 07, 2017, 01:13:58 am
I had no idea Mid Century Modern was a thing.

Oh it's a BIG BIG thing!
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: malliekm on July 07, 2017, 01:15:53 am
I really like the mid century modern look of the Echo Show.  I'm very tired of all the modern cylinder speakers etc.  So far I love my echo show for the purposes we use it for.  No complaints really thus far other than the scrolling comments on the screen.  I'm sure they will axe that soon.

but you cannot hang it on the wall.  something that big is taking up counter/table space.  It should be more like a tablet, maybe thicker but something that can be hung on a wall and look like it belong there.

Dear Mr forum owner,  PLEASE give us a "like" button :) 
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: mike27oct on July 07, 2017, 04:31:26 am
>>>  iPhone is MCM.

What the heck is this comment supposed to mean!
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: malliekm on July 07, 2017, 07:08:07 am
Oh good, I'm glad somebody asked!  :o
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: Laurel on July 07, 2017, 05:07:04 pm
MCM=Mid Century Modern
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: malliekm on July 07, 2017, 06:14:57 pm
Yes, we realize what MCM is.  We just don't understand how the iphone relates to MCM.  I'm guessing you're referring to the design but I still don't get it.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: renegade600 on July 07, 2017, 06:55:57 pm
mcm also means "man crush monday."   don't believe me, look it up.  so in a sense,  the person has a man crush on their iphone.    they think their phone is a sexy beast.    I think they just need to get a life  :-)
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: mike27oct on July 08, 2017, 01:00:33 am
Still talking about what the Show looks like . . . Ever been in a restaurant that has what looks like an 8" monitor on the table with a large footprint that also reduces the eating area?  It's for paying the bill at the table w/CC, and/or letting the kids play video games (for a charge, of course).

The Show is the spitting image of this monstrosity.

I have often though about elbowing the darn gadget off the restaurant table to gain more space and stop that infernal screen from streaming ads at me, and just say to waitress: "Oops, sorry about that". Instead, I just turn it toward next table. Local Red Robin has them on every table.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: malliekm on July 08, 2017, 01:49:52 am
Totally dislike those things!  The ones around here look more like a small monitor on a stand.  I push them to the end of the table or, at Chili's, place it on the pony wall or windowsill.  We will order dessert and/or pay the bill with it tho.

(http://www.cmo.com/content/dam/CMO_Other/articles/Chilis-ziosk.jpg)
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: renegade600 on July 08, 2017, 03:03:12 am
do you have to tip if you use them  :-)
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: malliekm on July 08, 2017, 03:27:01 am
I don't know if you HAVE to but we do :)
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: mike27oct on July 08, 2017, 04:38:47 am
Yep, that photo "displays" what I was referring to.  Looks like Show's big brother.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: scottrods on July 08, 2017, 03:15:17 pm
I quit going to chilis when they put those *kiosks* to use... They quit doing the service job (which was half or more of my reason for the outing in the first place). Then they didn't exactly reduce the prices to reflect that you're doing some of their job for them. The only convenience I see is for the restaurant having to do less work for the money they continue to charge. The wages likely didn't go up either. AND, I witnessed a friend paying with one once and they had a tip calculator on them that inflated reality to make you feel like you weren't tipping enough... showing a 15% tip was a dollar amount that was much higher than 20%... (Yes, I will still eat there if someone insists we meet them there for dinner, but I usually offer up an alternative, if they are open to something different)

I went a few times after they implemented the "do it yourself" payment "option", but they started pretty much forcing the use of them. I would walk in and ask them to remove it once seated. I told them if they wanted a tip they'd do the work, not me.

That crap is the epitome of "milking everything you can from the customer" in my opinion. It shows a complete lack of desire to serve the customer.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: renegade600 on July 08, 2017, 04:02:06 pm
I quit going to chilis when they put those *kiosks* to use... They quit doing the service job (which was half or more of my reason for the outing in the first place). Then they didn't exactly reduce the prices to reflect that you're doing some of their job for them. The only convenience I see is for the restaurant having to do less work for the money they continue to charge. The wages likely didn't go up either. AND, I witnessed a friend paying with one once and they had a tip calculator on them that inflated reality to make you feel like you weren't tipping enough... showing a 15% tip was a dollar amount that was much higher than 20%... (Yes, I will still eat there if someone insists we meet them there for dinner, but I usually offer up an alternative, if they are open to something different)

I went a few times after they implemented the "do it yourself" payment "option", but they started pretty much forcing the use of them. I would walk in and ask them to remove it once seated. I told them if they wanted a tip they'd do the work, not me.

That crap is the epitome of "milking everything you can from the customer" in my opinion. It shows a complete lack of desire to serve the customer.

too many servers are using skimmers these days (in my area) so I may want to at least use the kiosks to pay for my meal. 
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: mike27oct on July 08, 2017, 11:38:54 pm
Not many Chili's in Seattle area, although there is one across the state in Spokane where I ate at often when I traveled there for work.  Anyway, the big chain around Seattle is Red Robin; a really good burger joint that when national and quickly went downhill from being great to ho-hum.  They have the payment kiosks, and since my wife pulls out the CC to pay, I just asked about the suggested tip.  Yep, they also suggest 20%.  What a racket to catch people unaware.
Title: Re: Echo Show not ready for Prime time
Post by: malliekm on July 11, 2017, 03:08:00 pm
Mom and I had dinner at Olive Garden Sat night.  They too have the table top kiosks.  It was  pushed to the side until it was time to order a Lemon Cream Cake  ;)  We didn't use it to pay.