Echo & Alexa Forums
General Category => Amazon Echo Discussion => Topic started by: Beetle-Snake on September 19, 2017, 03:46:44 pm
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Just read about the new 10 inch tablet which will now have a 1080p screen resolution but more importantly hands free Alexa, even when in sleep mode. With its increased functionality and flexibility to have standing or carried around does this make the Show redundant?
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sounds like a show killer.
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Its microphone and speaker might not be as powerful as the ones on a Show though.
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you have to stand in front of the show when you use it, so it may not make a difference.
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the speakers I think will be the big difference when streaming music - I hear good things about the sound quality on the Show but I guess adding a speaker either by cable or BT would easily solve that issue. I can see the HD10 working even better in the kitchen with a wall mount but the ability carry it around from room to room is a big plus over the Show and its cheaper - seems like a no-brainer unless I am missing something else the Show does better.
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the speakers I think will be the big difference when streaming music - I hear good things about the sound quality on the Show but I guess adding a speaker either by cable or BT would easily solve that issue. I can see the HD10 working even better in the kitchen with a wall mount but the ability carry it around from room to room is a big plus over the Show and its cheaper - seems like a no-brainer unless I am missing something else the Show does better.
I totally agree with this. I am waiting for reviews after it is released to see if it will do everything the show does. being wall mountable would be a big plus :-)
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Agreed... Speakers being the only shortcoming, it will have no bearing on my purchase... and they come in RED (my Wife's favorite color)! Win Win Win. And a Helluvalot cheaper than a new iPad.
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Just by the physical size of a tablet, the speaker(s) inside has to be very flat. A flat speaker, no matter how loud they can make it, will not have the same audio reproduction qualities as a larger cone shaped speaker.
For some, including myself, audio quality is not a main concern. I don't listen to music much on my Echoes or Dots.
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I was interested in that tablet as a first step into the Android ecosystem (I own a Windows phone and am often missing apps) until I learned that FireOS does not allow access to the full Google Playstore or your Google account and that their Silk browser is disappointing :-\
Sure you can sideload Chrome (https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-install-the-Google-Chrome-browser-on-my-new-Kindle-Fire-HD-8-7th-gen#) easily but cannot login into your Google account.
Oh well, this might not be the tablet for me.
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Well I hope Amazon reads this. I honestly don't know what they were thinking when they conceptualized echo show designed like a freaking 80s big TV the miniature version. LOL.
I think that echo and echo show does not work the same though? I mean I don't think this tablet with alexa will 'obey' or recognize the show command which is for echo show. Looks like this one will function like the alexa app.
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We have two Echo Shows and love them. I don't see the Fire as even being close to what Show is utilized for. I glance and see weather, see recipes, see all my pictures scrolling by if I so choose, see saw lyrics etc. etc. Can't see how a tablet would be the same. Forgot to say the sound with music is wonderful and the intercom feature is super.
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We have two Echo Shows and love them. I don't see the Fire as even being close to what Show is utilized for. I glance and see weather, see recipes, see all my pictures scrolling by if I so choose, see saw lyrics etc. etc. Can't see how a tablet would be the same. Forgot to say the sound with music is wonderful and the intercom feature is super.
you could be right but until the new fire is released, there s no way to know. according to the specs, you can use alexa hands free on it so hopefully it will also have some other show features :-)
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We have two Echo Shows and love them. I don't see the Fire as even being close to what Show is utilized for. I glance and see weather, see recipes, see all my pictures scrolling by if I so choose, see saw lyrics etc. etc. Can't see how a tablet would be the same. Forgot to say the sound with music is wonderful and the intercom feature is super.
Sorry to burst your bubble but you honestly didn't know a PC, smartphone or tablet can do all that? Just curious.
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We have two Echo Shows and love them. I don't see the Fire as even being close to what Show is utilized for. I glance and see weather, see recipes, see all my pictures scrolling by if I so choose, see saw lyrics etc. etc. Can't see how a tablet would be the same. Forgot to say the sound with music is wonderful and the intercom feature is super.
Sorry to burst your bubble but you honestly didn't know a PC, smartphone or tablet can do all that? Just curious.
I have all of the above and no they do not do in the same way what a table model Show does. I like the retro design also. I would never haul around an ipad or tablet or my Note 8 to look at recipes in the kitchen. How many times have I used a tablet for my phone for a recipe propped on the counter and had it fade and I have to touch with goopy hands. I have a Show there in a good spot. Thus no flour or goop on the ipad when I need to push it over to make room for the muffin tin lol. We just love having the digital picture frame always scrolling our pictures at a glance (not having to go into the tablet and open it and prop it up somewhere). For us it is a real step above the suggestions you made. It is wonderful in our books. We all have different preference.
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We have two Echo Shows and love them. I don't see the Fire as even being close to what Show is utilized for. I glance and see weather, see recipes, see all my pictures scrolling by if I so choose, see saw lyrics etc. etc. Can't see how a tablet would be the same. Forgot to say the sound with music is wonderful and the intercom feature is super.
Sorry to burst your bubble but you honestly didn't know a PC, smartphone or tablet can do all that? Just curious.
I have all of the above and no they do not do in the same way what a table model Show does. I like the retro design also. I would never haul around an ipad or tablet or my Note 8 to look at recipes in the kitchen. How many times have I used a tablet for my phone for a recipe propped on the counter and had it fade and I have to touch with goopy hands. I have a Show there in a good spot. Thus no flour or goop on the ipad when I need to push it over to make room for the muffin tin lol. We just love having the digital picture frame always scrolling our pictures at a glance (not having to go into the tablet and open it and prop it up somewhere). For us it is a real step above the suggestions you made. It is wonderful in our books. We all have different preference.
True. I do get that. But since I know what I know. I have a hard time paying for a 'new' gadget when my old gadget is capable of it and more. Now you made me want to turn my old tablet gathering dust into a digital picture frame, or maybe a security camera or maybe a media player.. LOL just playing with you.
Solution for your tablet screen not to fade is to set your display screen to never time out. I always do that when I use my phone for recipe.
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I was interested in that tablet as a first step into the Android ecosystem (I own a Windows phone and am often missing apps) until I learned that FireOS does not allow access to the full Google Playstore or your Google account and that their Silk browser is disappointing :-\
Sure you can sideload Chrome (https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-install-the-Google-Chrome-browser-on-my-new-Kindle-Fire-HD-8-7th-gen#) easily but cannot login into your Google account.
Oh well, this might not be the tablet for me.
I have the Google Play Store side-loaded on both Fire HD tablets. Chrome, Gmail etc all work perfectly.
Very common add-on.
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For those that are propping up your cell phone or tablet while following a recipe, behold ;)
I have one in the bathroom, one in the bedroom and one in the kitchen. They're $4 on Amazon.
They hold phones and tablets. I have a 10.1" Galaxy Note and set it on the stand in landscape
mode. Set the screen to never time out and your recipe won't turn off.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41QgNwZBOCL.jpg)
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Malliek nice stands. However, I love the table model retro look of the Show. I have a replica old bedside radio with knobs. lol I find all the phones and tablets way too modern for me to have any real feeling for i.e. wouldn't save my Note 8 in a drawer somewhere to reminiscence about. I guess I like the nostalgia of days of yore. I am the gal that bought a Blackberry Keyone android cellphone for the physical keyboard lol. Hubby is the ipad pro, iphone guy in the house and he doesn't cook.
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I was interested in that tablet as a first step into the Android ecosystem (I own a Windows phone and am often missing apps) until I learned that FireOS does not allow access to the full Google Playstore or your Google account and that their Silk browser is disappointing :-\
Sure you can sideload Chrome (https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-install-the-Google-Chrome-browser-on-my-new-Kindle-Fire-HD-8-7th-gen#) easily but cannot login into your Google account.
Oh well, this might not be the tablet for me.
I have the Google Play Store side-loaded on both Fire HD tablets. Chrome, Gmail etc all work perfectly.
Very common add-on.
Hey, good to know!
Just found that link How to Install the Google Play Store on the Amazon Fire Tablet or Fire HD 8 (https://www.howtogeek.com/232726/how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-your-amazon-fire-tablet/)
I might reconsider then ;)
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Malliek nice stands. However, I love the table model retro look of the Show. I have a replica old bedside radio with knobs. lol I find all the phones and tablets way too modern for me to have any real feeling for i.e. wouldn't save my Note 8 in a drawer somewhere to reminiscence about. I guess I like the nostalgia of days of yore. I am the gal that bought a Blackberry Keyone android cellphone for the physical keyboard lol. Hubby is the ipad pro, iphone guy in the house and he doesn't cook.
I'm not a retro fan but my daughter sure is. They just built a Southern Living coastal farm house and EVERYthing in it is old. She bought everything from estate sales, garage sales, auctions. Doors are 100+ years old :o All the phones in the house are these old desk rotary dial phones. Some she left black and some she painted. It's like stepping back in time to walk into her house.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HKnlpblflgRlbhW8VaqH6BgEgQVMj1WjPmmLlk2T5bjOZfnhGQV08Mmhl_5h7KYHzR4WuEMbY9bk4T3p7NiOflW80zJeNA5NYoUlb3F22lpPvVd5LtYBmt_aUJ8qa-5zvWoVGBl_5QN8WsqIl7lRkjZcXpYkp19r435Z5mfbekz5RZH4AJjhJ2L2PExYGGGxUf_k3aHwPcwBMp1oLPHS-nHXC_QTPvvvUUn_JSFugr46QmZ7DkXlOU7a13mYCx5aoeegDIKsxjKOHdMmCpoHSSaqNpQsrVu9WvurXxAij_MVYj4Vln73JSWvBQkkGbW_ADaovWnFkS_6ihNB6Owz0vWLqMAi9x9dbtD_G-JakZPsYUK0m0eQiskckg0N8olZ7K2DQzIZAfK7g4tf_xhyaXxCI4MBdb_lCVPIm6-836l15KHvuJp2WGsiSIrUW-4QEPyriIHVh62fH9KsuIucaAD-ZJxtenQGQJj2ozdb1gNxV0IeiAsc4VAAy13_nHKyyV4TNu7JGf_Ql-hs9NXRAE5wgTtksI1rGMfmHcGB_oXSz2po9fc_vYj9kfodeMw-pQxR4HXvPFINTHfwEXFyht6GKnCEU57oyHMullvVJA=w754-h702-no)
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Malliekm I would love her home! I love the old things. My garden is very pretty with lots of the old time shrubs and perennials. I have to limit my retro taste in the house due to my husband who is modern all the way. But now days one can be quite eclectic with decorating so the house looks fine with a mix.
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I know the Fire HD10 will have Alexa built-in but apart from that, why would you consider that tablet which is Amazon-oriented with a crippled Android OS (ie FireOS) over a "regular" Android tablet (such a Galaxy Tab) where you could install the Amazon services if needed?
Does the Fire HD10 have a better price/specs ratio than others ?
Trying to understand why all the fuss, thanks ;)
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If the Fire tabletlacks a good mic array, Show will be fine.
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I know the Fire HD10 will have Alexa built-in but apart from that, why would you consider that tablet which is Amazon-oriented with a crippled Android OS (ie FireOS) over a "regular" Android tablet (such a Galaxy Tab) where you could install the Amazon services if needed?
Does the Fire HD10 have a better price/specs ratio than others ?
Trying to understand why all the fuss, thanks ;)
Just my opinion here, but The Fire Tablet is CHEAP and the Samsung is not... 'bout half the price of any similarly sized tablet... Specs... I dunno about that, but couple the price, and someone who uses a lot of home automated stuff using the echo ecosystem... It's a better deal than *some* of the other Alexa devices even... The best part about it being a full on Alexa device is the portability coupled with the Alexa features, within an already established echo ecosystem... pretty cool for the money.
However... if you want a badass Tablet... this ain't your Corvette or Rolls Royce, Bugatti, etc... Go Buy the latest Samsung or Ipad pro and load up the apps... but you won't get Alexa hands free. (Unless someone has fugured out how to get Siri to wake the tablet for Alexa use... that'd be a game changer)