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Echo Dot alternatives with RJ45 Ethernet port?

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Echo Dot alternatives with RJ45 Ethernet port?
« on: May 16, 2018, 12:35:06 pm »
I'd like to add an Echo Dot-type device (Alexa-based, so it can be integrated with our Echo in the living room) to our master bedroom. I love the Echo Dot form factor because it can be mounted flush into the ceiling. But my bedroom is kind of a Wifi-free/weak zone. By design actually. I don't like the idea of being bombarded with strong 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz signals all night, every night. It just doesn't seem reasonable to me (I know this could make for a whole different kind of discussion, but let's just say that's not the way I'd like to go).  Therefore every networked device near our bedroom (I'm not living in the stone ages, so we DO have a Roku in the bedroom and a Smart TV in our master bath) is hardwired with Ethernet cables. I'd like to find an Alexa device with a similar form factor as the Echo Dot, but that does come with an RJ45 Ethernet port. Does anyone know if that exists? And no, I'm not interested in a cute robot or a nightstand radio or another Bluetooth speaker - I'd like it to be tucked away in the ceiling... :-) An audio port for external speakers (not Bluetooth) would be a bonus.

Re: Echo Dot alternatives with RJ45 Ethernet port?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2018, 01:10:50 pm »
"bombarded with strong 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz signals all night,"

Not a reality.  As far as strength goes, they are very weak compared to other radio waves ) that surround us.(both man-made and natural). A common misconception of people who know very little about radio energy.

Re: Echo Dot alternatives with RJ45 Ethernet port?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2018, 02:33:19 pm »
What do you want it for? The only Alexa device I can think of is the fire tv. At least I would assume you can connect it to Ethernet like all smart TVs.

I was also gonna say their tablets but I don't think they have Ethernet port.

But if you want dot on your room just use wifi repeater but that is against your rules. Oh well.

If you have a laptop I guess you can settle for Cortana.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 02:35:02 pm by asianrocker »

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Re: Echo Dot alternatives with RJ45 Ethernet port?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2018, 04:52:50 pm »
msy88, I understand why you want to limit your exposure to radio waves. Although I see and experience no adverse effects from being near my WiFi routers (I have 3 in a mesh configuration), I believe that prolonged exposure could have a detrimental effect. After all, I sit 4 feet from a WiFi router nearly 12-14 hours a day. And my smartphone is almost always inches away 24 hours a day.
mike27oct, I know you are a techie with many years of experience, I'm certain you also know that radio wave path attenuation increases exponentially to distance. Therefore having a desire to increase the distance from any RF source would be logical, whether any negative effect exists.

Then there's the issue with electro-hypersensitivity (EHS). Is it real? There is a small percentage of the population who claim that they feel better when they are in an area with limited radio waves. There is such a place called the National Radio Quiet Zone in a 13,000 square mile area in W Virginia that people with EHS have reported significant relief from their symptoms. And when they return home, their symptoms reappear as well.

If you are interested reading more, here are a couple of links:

« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 04:55:04 pm by jwlv »

Re: Echo Dot alternatives with RJ45 Ethernet port?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2018, 07:38:22 pm »
I have heard about the place in Virginia with very low radio emissions from earthly, man-made radio energy.  It's not for the benefit of those who think any man made RF energy is harmful, no matter how minuscule it is.  it is because there are very sensitive radio telescopes placed there as scientists scan the sky for very weak signals from space.  So. the less man-made noise/interferrence, the better.

Our man made radio signals are at the very bottom of harmful radiation that ranks as insignificant.  , and the most harmful is a gamma ray burst from exploding neutron stars and such that can focus a death star beam of energy that can blast a heavenly body from existence if directly in the path of The beam. We never want one of those to even be many light years from our galaxy. or we could all be toast, instantly.

The point is, there are degrees of harmfulness, and our home electronics man made RF energy is not even close. (Nevertheless,  never put a little dog in a microwave oven to dry it; too much concentrated RF energy!)

Re: Echo Dot alternatives with RJ45 Ethernet port?
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2018, 05:48:04 am »
You can get a WiFi repeater, flash it with OpenWRT, and adjust the radio output to minimum power necessary to just barely reach the Echo device reliably.

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Re: Echo Dot alternatives with RJ45 Ethernet port?
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2018, 01:07:50 pm »
Could you put an echo dot in another room, close enough to use a paired remote or perhaps access via wired intercom, and use wired speakers in the bedroom?

Re: Echo Dot alternatives with RJ45 Ethernet port?
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2018, 04:46:32 am »
The only alexa hardware I can think of where you could use UTP would be a Fire Tablet 10 (or a latest gen fire TV if you use the remote and connect it to other hardware for sound), with an adapter to split the usb micro port.
My Alexa stuff:
Echo Show, Echo Spot, 4 Echo Dots, Fire TV, Fire tablet,
Vobot Alarmclock, Logitech Harmony Hub, house full of Hue lights,
Ring doorbell, Tado smart thermostat, Plex server.